I often used to run out of things to talk about. Either because I got stuck in small talk that died out or because I tensed up so that my mind went blank.
Sometimes, a conversation is meant to end, and there’s no need to push it. But if you often run out of things to say, this guide is for you.
1. Practice saying what’s on your mind
I used to worry that what I said would sound dumb or too obvious. When I analyzed socially savvy people, I learned that they say mundane, obvious things all the time.[2]
For example:
- “It’s really cold today, isn’t it?”
- “I love the sandwiches they sell here.”
- “Huh, the traffic isn’t usually so light at this time of day.”
When you start a conversation with someone new, you may feel like small talk is awkward and meaningless. The truth is that small talk helps us “warm-up” to each other and signals that we’re friendly, easy-going, and open to interaction. People will judge you for what you say as little as you walk around and judge others for what they say. Instead of trying to say smart things, say whatever’s on your mind.
2. Ask something personal
“I often run out of things to say with friends. I get stuck in small talk, and the conversation dies out”.
– Cas
Ask people slightly personal questions to make boring topics interesting.
For example:
If you’re talking about work:
- “What do you like most about your job?”
- “Why did you choose [their field of work]?”
- “If you could do any kind of work, what would you do?”
If you’re talking about the cost of renting in their city:
- “Where would you love to live if you could pick anywhere on earth?”
- “Have you lived in many other places?”
- “Did you grow up around here?”
- “Would you ever move out of the city to save on rent, or do you think the cost is worth it?”
This way, you move from small talk to personal mode. In the personal mode, we learn about:
- Plans
- Likes
- Passions
- Dreams
- Hopes
- Fears
When you transition the conversation like this, you’re engaging the other person more, and it’s easier to make conversation.[3] At this point, you get to know each other rather than just making small talk.
See my guide on how to make interesting conversation.
3. Focus on the conversation
Sometimes, all we can think about is if we come off as weird, if we’re blushing or that our heart is about to jump out of our chest. The key is to calm your mind by focusing intensively on what the other person is saying:
In a study conducted at Macquarie University on attentional focus in social anxiety, they found that when the participants focused their attention on what the other person was saying, instead of on their internal reactions like heart rate, blushing, concern over how they were being perceived, they were less nervous and had fewer physical reactions as a result.[1]
When you focus on what your partner is saying you won’t have time to feed your internal anxiety because your mind is caught up in the conversation. When you worry less about yourself, it’s easier to come up with things to say.
4. Stop trying so hard
I decided to stop trying so hard. I accepted that conversation didn’t have to go great and that people didn’t have to like me. Ironically, that helped me relax and be more pleasant and likable to be around.
Rather than being on edge trying to come up with things to say, allow for silences. Be okay with taking a few seconds extra to formulate an answer. Rather than trying to make people like you, make sure that they like being AROUND you.
You can do that by being a great listener. When you talk, you say things that you think are fun or interesting for the other person to hear, not things that are supposed to make you look a certain way. (Humblebragging, talking about cool stuff you’ve done, etc.)
People want to be liked and heard and are interested in people who show them that kind of genuine attention. As Maya Angelou said, “At the end of the day, people won’t remember what you said or did; they will remember how you made them feel.”
Read more here in our guide on how to be more likable.
5. Watch their feet to gauge their interest
Sometimes a conversation dies out because the other person tries to end it, and sometimes they want to talk but just don’t know what to say. How do you know the difference?
Their body language will tell you if they are inclined to spend time talking or if they have other plans. Look at what way their feet are pointing. Is it toward you or away from you? If it’s toward you, they are inviting further conversation. If it’s away from you, they might want to get away from the conversation. If they also spend a lot of time looking in the direction of their feet, it’s an even stronger signal that they want to leave.
If they point away from you, you can wrap up the conversation with one or two sentences.
For example:
- “It’s later than I thought, so I’d better get going! It was great to see you, hopefully we can catch up soon.”
- “I’ve really enjoyed chatting to you, but I’ve got a busy afternoon ahead of me. See you later.”
- “It was really nice talking to you. I think it’s time for me to get back to work.”
If they point their feet at you and look at you, you can feel confident that they’ll want to keep talking.
6. Use things around you to inspire new topics
Take inspiration from your environment and make a comment or ask a question about it to not run out of things to say.
For example:
- “I love these plants. Are you good at growing stuff?”
- “I like this new office. Is your commute longer or shorter now?”
- “That’s an interesting painting, isn’t it? I like abstract art. Do you?”
- “It’s so warm today! Do you like the hot weather?”
- “I love the music in this place. I can’t remember this band’s name, though. Do you know it?”
Some avoid simple statements like these because they think that they are too mundane. Don’t! They work great as inspiration for new, interesting topics.
For more tips on how to keep a conversation going, I suggest following our Instagram channel:
7. Refer back to something you talked about before
When the topic you’re talking about dries up, feel free to go back to any topic you talked about before.
Let’s say that someone mentions that they are in the import business, and then the conversation moves on. A few minutes later, when it fizzles out, you can go back to asking something about the import business. For example, you could say, “You mentioned that you’re doing imports. What do you import more specifically?”
Conversations don’t have to be a straight line. When a topic dies out, feel free to move to a new one or a previous one.
8. Make simple, positive statements
I think of these as conversation buffers. They keep the conversation going, but they’re not too deep.
For example:
- “What a cool house.”
- “It’s sunny today.”
- “Those flowers are pretty.”
- “That was a helpful meeting.”
- “What a cute dog.”
This is a fairly organic way to move on to new topics. It helps you see if you have a connection to something else like being interested in architecture or what weather you prefer and, based on that, where you’d rather live.
You don’t need to fabricate statements. Your mind already makes statements about things – that’s how the mind works. Feel free to let those thoughts out.
9. Ask open-ended questions
Open-ended questions give the other person a chance to think about their answer and say something more detailed than yes or no.
For example:
- Rather than asking “Was the vacation good?” (Close-ended), you can ask, “How was your vacation?” (Open-ended)
- Rather than asking “Did your team win last night’s game?” (Close-ended), you can ask, “How was last night’s game?” (Open-ended)
- Rather than asking, “Did you enjoy the party?” (Close-ended) you can ask, “Who was at the party?” or “What kind of party was it?” (Open-ended)
Asking questions like these often gives more elaborate answers, and because of that, you’ll get to know each other faster and on a deeper level.
10. Look for mutual interests
When we find out that we have something in common with someone, it’s an automatic spark to the friendship (and a hint of relief). Make it a habit to mention things you’re interested in.
If someone asks what you were up to over the weekend, you could say, “I met up with my book club yesterday,” or “I went to the gym and then took my son to his hockey game,” or “I watched this harrowing documentary about the Vietnam war.”
Mentioning things you’re interested in will help you “scout” for mutual interests. If you come across someone who’s also interested in books, hockey, or history, they’ll probably want to hear more about it.
11. Know that people want to learn about you too
It’s a myth that people only want to talk about themselves. They also want to get a picture of the person they’re talking to – you. Don’t be afraid to share things about yourself as long as you’re also showing interest in the other person.
Balance with the other person how much you share. If someone gives you an in-depth explanation of their job, give them an in-depth explanation of your job. If they just briefly mention what they do, briefly mention what you do.
This helps us bond because we are revealing things to each other at the same pace. You’re keeping it interesting for your partner because you’re opening up, too.
12. Ask follow-up questions
Let’s say you’ve just learned that the person you talk to is originally from Connecticut. To move the conversation along, you could ask “what,” “why,” “when,” and “how” questions to draw that experience out more.
For example:
- “What was it like to grow up in Connecticut?”
- “Why did you move here?”
- “How did you feel about leaving home?”
- “When did you first think about leaving Connecticut?”
- “What do you like most about your new home?”
- “How long did it take you to find a new house here?”
Let your natural curiosity guide you. Share related information about yourself in between your questions so you don’t come off as an interrogator. If they are giving you full, thoughtful answers, keep going.
13. See a person as a map with blanks to be filled
Everyone comes from somewhere and has interesting stories related to their interests, dreams, aspirations, and past. Think of getting to know someone as a gentle quest to understand more about where they come from, what they like, and their future dreams.
You’re asking questions with the purpose of filling in the blanks of where they’re from, what they do, and what their future plans are.
For example:
To learn more about their life growing up, you could ask:
- “Where did you grow up?”
- “Do you have any siblings?”
- “Did your family live close by when you were a kid or did they live far away?”
- “Did you have any pets as a child?”
To learn more about their education or school, you could ask:
- “Where did you go to school?”
- “What did you study?”
- “What was your favorite class?”
To learn more about their passions and hobbies, you could ask:
- “What do you love to do in your free time?”
- “Do you have any particular hobbies?”
- “What do you usually do on the weekends?”
To learn more about their hopes and dreams, you could ask:
- “What’s your biggest ambition in life?”
- “What’s something you’ve always wanted to do but haven’t had the chance yet?”
Over time, filling in these blanks gives you an unlimited number of topics to talk about, and while you ask questions (and share about yourself in between), you get to know each other.
14. Be comfortable with silence
Silence happens. It’s not a bad thing. It’s a natural part of a conversation, and it’s okay to just let it happen. There’s no need to fill it as quickly as possible. In fact, silence has a purpose. It gives you time to take a breath and think and to make the conversation more meaningful. Letting there be silence and not being anxious about it helps you bond with the other person. If you learn to be comfortable with the silence, it can be refreshing not to have to talk all the time.
Filling every break in a conversation with words can come off as anxious. Remember that a conversation is between two people, who are both participating equally. If you need a few seconds to take a break, that’s fine. They might need it too.
15. Practice being more relaxed when talking
“Why can’t I think of things to say with someone I like? I specifically want to learn how to never run out of things to say with a girl I know. Around her, I get extra nervous and run out of things to talk about.”
– Patrick
It’s normal to be nervous when you’re meeting someone for the first time, especially if it’s a girl or a boy you like.
Practice staying a bit longer than usual in a conversation, even if you’re feeling nervous and would rather just leave. Our instinct is to get away from what makes us nervous. But you want to stay longer in those situations! You’re slowly teaching your brain that nothing bad happens if you do, and you’re slowly becoming better at handling these situations.
Here’s our guide on how to not get nervous around people.
16. Know that silence isn’t your responsibility
Silence is not a failure. A sign of a great friendship is that both can be quiet together and not feel uncomfortable about it. It might feel like you’re the one responsible for coming up with things to say, but the other person is likely thinking that it’s THEIR responsibility. They aren’t waiting for you to talk. They’re also trying to come up with things to say!
If you show that you’re calm in the silence and OK with not saying anything, your friend will be, too.
Read our guide on how to be comfortable with silence.
17. Dive deeper into topics when texting
When you’re texting with someone, have the following two rules in mind. These rules will make your conversations more interesting, and it’ll be easier to come up with things to say:
Rule 1: Lead by example
If you want an interesting answer from someone, share something interesting first.
For example:
- “Today I almost missed the bus because I saw two squirrels fighting. How was your morning?”
- “My boss just announced that this year’s office party will have a circus theme. I hope I don’t have to dress up as a clown. How’s your day going?”
- “I got home this afternoon to find that my dog had knocked over my yucca plant and rolled around in the soil. He looked very pleased with himself. How’re you?”
You don’t have to think very hard, because you can use things that happened during your day for inspiration. It can also inspire a more thoughtful reply than “How was your morning/afternoon/day?”
Rule 2: Always go deeper
Always go deeper into a subject if you want the conversation to be more interesting. It’s also easier to come up with things to talk about if you go deeper into a subject.
To continue the first example in the step above, you can go deeper by sharing how you feel in the mornings (stressed, happy, dreadful) and ask how they feel about their mornings. From now on, you can talk about personal feelings and thoughts about life.
For example:
You: Today I almost missed the bus because I saw two squirrels fighting. How was your morning?
Them: Haha, squirrels are crazy. My morning was OK. I’m kind of tired though. I don’t know why. I went to bed early. It’s a mystery.
You: I know how that feels. I’m the sleepiest person I know in the mornings. Is it just me, or is 8 hours of sleep not enough? It’s like as I get older, I need more and more sleep.
Them: It’s not just you. When I was younger I used to stay up all night, party, then go into work…sometimes I miss my college days because… [carries on talking about college and partying]
The conversation gets more interesting, and you get to know each other on a deeper level.
18. Remember that conversations are meant to end
Not everyone you meet will be someone you connect with on multiple levels. Sometimes it’s just a bit of small talk, and that’s all you have time for. Time, circumstances, how you feel that day, how they feel that day, lots of things decide how much emotional space we have for conversation. No conversation is meant to go on forever.
A conversation is not a failure just because it’s short. One thing is certain. The more conversations you’ll have, the better of a conversationalist you’ll become.
A real-world example of how to never run out of things to say
Here’s what you will learn in the video:
00:15 – The solution to never running out of things to say
00:36 – Linear- vs Nonlinear conversations
01:00 – Won’t you come off as random switching the subject?
01:24 – Real life example of Conversational Threading
02:30 – How to best practice Conversational Threading
02:46 – The best thing about learning this
Thank you so much for making the videos. They are SO useful. I have always felt like people think im boring because im so quiet
Thankyou so much for making this video, I always have trouble talking to girls, well, I will talk good with them for a little while, but then the conversation just dies. Now I know what to do when that conversation starts dyeing down, I’ll just move onto a topic we already discussed.
Thankyou,
Josh
This was very useful, I always go blank when I don’t have anything to say and that really annoys me because I actually want to talk but I become so blank like I have to think for a long time and I usually go on social media to think of something but sometimes it doesn’t work. The person has a lot of things to say to me sometimes but all of the time I become so blank and I really hate that. Thank you for this, I will try this and see how it goes:)
Hi David,
it’s not what to say that is lacking in me, but more like why to talk unnecessary. its too easy to take a book, curl up on sofa and read.
talking seems like too much effort to me.
but thanks to you, i am starting to make small talk with strangers with the aim to move on to serious topics. its just the beginning, but i am hopeful.
Thanks
Apoo
Hi!
This was truly, very helpful!
I very much dislike awkward silences… and like you mentioned as well, I also often beat myself up for it.
I actually had the opportunity to try this out while applying the several things I’ve learned from you so far at this early stage of my e-mail training, and I’m blown away by how fast I was able to eliminate awkward silences from my conversations. It was incredible. The concepts of being attentive and curious about the other person followed with this video’s new concept of relaying back to previous topics worked so well hand-in-hand and gave me so much more confidence.
Thank you, and I look froward to seeing more from you!
Those were really useful suggestions. But i would like to ask you something. I am a rare case because i have no problem with talking to strangers, but when it comes to talk to people i know since i was little, that are my friends or something, i get stuck and I don’t know what to talk about and there is a silence in which neither of us is comfortable. What can i do with that? Why do i get so worried in this kind of subject if it’s with my friends who i am talking with?
oh my gosh what the heck sameeeee, this is a huge problem with me. When im with my friends i don’t know what to say because I don’t want to come off as weird. when i talk to strangers i like to expirement and try new things. I think im secretly worried what my friends will think. I don’t have much friends, and since im scared they will leave me i always try to say ‘cool things’.
I think you are putting way too much stock in what they think of you. Maybe deep down you are afraid of them leaving you? Whereas with strangers it’s easy to not be emotionally involved but go with the flow.
This is a wonderful method, I must give it a try
I am a very very shy person. Didn’t talk in school at all so was bullied. I made myself talk with a person I didn’t know very well last week and she got up and walked away. It was so awkward I had to go to my room for an hour.
Thanks David for your consistent assistance. I almost lost hope in life and thought I will never be able to be comfortable like others. Further I would like to make a request;if you can please provide assistance in how to begin conversation with existing friends groups and how to improve the sense of humour.
Thank you!
Its nice to be less nervous and nice to met new people to talk to. But how do i keep them, to be closer friends.
And how do single people met new partnets? The world is quick, short messages and photos and people suddenly dissapear in the middle of a conversation?
Thank you so much for you emails they have been an absolute game changer, I genuinely feel like my social awkwardness and introverted nature is perhaps curable. However I would like to get your opinion on what to do if those around you do not feel that you can be any different. My question is do these tricks you teach have a visible effect that others can see or are they more subtle, because of no-one can tell a difference they will not give you an easier time when practicing your techniques
David, you’re the best. You share some really valuable information, why don’t you start a podcast?
Tha k YOU for this very good lesson. I really want to know more.
I find these really usefull
How to start something or what topics to bring up when there is an awkward silence two friends ?
I’m in this situation where i call lots of people my friends but i barely know them and i hardly spent time with them. It’s like i have friends but no one to talk to.
Just wanted to say thank you for this video. This tool of the three topics and the other tool I learned with a prior video, “O.F.C.” is helpful! I’ve tried out O.F.C. and I’m looking forward to trying out the three topics 🙂
This was of great help, thanks! But could you help me have better conversations with friends that I’ve known for quite sometime? Meeting strangers is always easy cuz you don’t really know them and discovering each other can be interesting. But as you get more acquainted, it gets harder to continue the bond. There’s just awkwardness and silence. I need to know how to develop deep, meaningful bonds with people!
Thanks for this. I have been in an akward silence in conversation with family & friends as they are my close circle. So this helps & very right about finding a subject. And don’t be not surpise when u can still have more longer conversation to go back on or how it transitions to another.
This is some great advice! My biggest issue in social gatherings is that I think I’m too boring. I want to make the other person in the conversation laugh and at ease because thats what makes me comfortable (knowing that the other person is having a good time), but my only problem is that I dont know how to be funny without trying too hard.
I think my issue is that I get so stressed about continuing the conversation that I try to think of interesting topics and can’t, of course, because I’m stressed and then I don’t end up listening or remembering what the person said to me.
Thank you
David, this is amazing work, thank you so much for sharing it with us!
After years of feeling like the underdog in many situations I would say that for me there is a fear baked in from childhood that I’m not as good as other people and that they are more important than me. Learning and accepting along the way that self acceptance of whoever i am at any given time is the only way to ever truly be happy has helped massively, but i have been missing the techniques for conversation and social skills to support progress in social situations and your work here really fits that situation, helping with going out into the world feeling like I have a tool kit of sorts. This helps to get around avoidant behaviour from being nervous of being nervous that drives me crazy!
Yesss this describes me perfectly too! Your not alone !
I often get the feeling that when I ask questions to try and spark a conversation, they aren’t interested in responding in any meaningful way and the conversation doesn’t continue. Should I keep asking questions to force them to talk? They don’t ask me anything in return.
Mostly it’s the opener… I feel like I’m decent enough at keeping a conversation going (even though that could also use some improvement). But I cannot usually bring myself to take the first step. I’m trying to gradually face my social fears to improve confidence but the first step is still the hardest. Especially in situations where it feels unnatural.
I’ve been trying to make small talk at the gym cause that’s where I feel most comfortable around strangers and I’ve been relatively successfull. But anywhere else: grocery stores, public spaces etc I just feel like I would be bothering people since I have no reason to actually talk to them. Also doesn’t help that I live in Sweden and people here just don’t socialize in public spaces. I need something to push through that first barrier.
Even just saying hello to, for example, a pretty girl walking by is more scary to me than actually having the conversation I feel… I need to figure something out
I think what is holding me back socially is the fear and anxiety of being perceived as stupid, silly, boring or unworthy of their time.
I can’t start conversations because i can’t find any interesting to say. I think i’m boring and that i don’t have anything to offer so they’ll dislike me. I’m afraid that what i say comes of as silly or dull and that people will want to go away
When ever I’m around a new group of people I usually feel like I can’t relate to them so it’s hard for me to make conversation. I tend to get stuck in my head thinking about what to say or do and this makes me feel kind of awkward because I feel like they can tell that there’s something wrong . I feel like I struggle to be my self around people other than my really close friends
I struggle to starting conversation with someone, I sit there with people unable to say anything. When I meet people for first time the main question everyone starts with is what do you do for living? I am not working at moment and this ends conversation. My life is boring as I struggle to socialise and have nothing interesting to say to about my life. I end up sitting there anxiously with group of people unable to join In with their conversation.
my only problem is that i have really bad shaving side effects and i just dont have above average skin either (im 15 and have facial hair by the way) my social problems mainly consist of just lacking hooks to conversations, and i cant start a conversation or persue one without it just being a question and answer, if you can give your personal opinion how to be an intresting, even an attractive person with conversation skills, charisma and half attractive looks that would be great
. . . I don’t think I’m making any progress. The only times I think of conversation in class is when someone asks a question loudly, or I ask someone a question. I don’t think of replying to statements, and I’m still bullied for being ‘depressed’ because of my silence. . . I feel panicky. . .